Something that stings me {political tho}

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer) 03/08/2019 at 23:10 • Filed to: None

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Well, not really, but nowadays, yeah.

Around nine percent of all Mexicans currently alive reside in the United States.

In broad terms, my country would have a population of around 140 million people if it wasn’t for the mass migration we saw for decades on end.


But it’s hard to actually tell how many of us are here, until everyone you meet speaks spanish, and is from a town you know, and have horribly complicated stories of why there are here now.

One of NAFTA’s goal was to stop the ridiculous amount of immigration into the United States; after the Mexican Miracle the economy was just a dog for everyone which encouraged some to move out.

But the goal, as far as !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! was concerned, was never met.

It makes me sad, and it makes me angry.

Because our migration deficit, so to speak, is 12 to 1. No matter how magical the US is, or how many millions of us have ties to the US, it just doesn’t make natural sense for twelve million of us to live in the US.

The reasons behind the amount of Mexicans in the US is obviously economic in most cases . One immigrant with who I spoke with told me that he’s gonna cash in his Social Security benefits back home when he retires... not here.

“ Home” ... it’s a strong word.

But what makes me angry isn’t that they left, or that they’ll return when they retire, or the ridiculous nonsense that is said about them on the media everyday.

What angers me is that we failed them... a country should provide for it’s people, and to think that one in every eleven Mexicans can’t call their home country home is insane.

The 2020s, 2030s, and further on will be decades characterized by mass-human migrations. Be it due to localized military conflicts, economic problems, or due to climate change: people will move... just like Mexicans did for decades.

It brings me to wonder what will be done about it, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I doubt a Honduran mother of two who had a whole community and social circle in her home country is exactly excited about moving to Boulder,CA and attending her children’s PTA meetings.

Or a young muslim guy having to move to Cologne in Germany, where much of his education is useless as far as getting him a job is concerned .

Again, I’m not saying they shouldn’t be able to, I’m just saying that in many cases these refugees don’t actually want to move unless it’s aboslutely necesary.

What I’m saying is that the world needs to prepare for the mass movement, and how the needs and desires of those displaced can be provided without upsetting the local population will be a key part of it.

That part doesn’t anger me, but it does certainly worry me.

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat 03/08/2019 at 23:18

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I’m excited for when, in 100 years, the vast majority of people with Mexican descent live in the USA, and Mexicans in Mexico get angry when Mexican-Americans call themselves Mexican on Cinco de Mayo.

What’s the Mexican equivalent of the B larney S tone?

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:26

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What’s the Mexican equivalent of the Blarney Stone?

I do not understand this question.

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat 03/08/2019 at 23:31

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The Blarney Stone is a portion of Blarney Castle in Ireland. Legend has it that kissing it makes you charismatic .

Imagine hundreds of Irish Americans lining up to kiss a rock because their distant ancestors happened to live nearby.

Svend > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:31

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Lol. We get that when Americans say, ‘I’m Irish/Scottish/Welsh’ when the last member of their family that was from that country was from four to seven generations ago.

It is funny to watch, but super annoying watching them walk around (especially when they’ve been and bought a kilt, Lol) shouting they are from here. I live in far northern England, so point out, if they are from here, they aren’t Scottish or they have got confused where Scotland finishes and England begins. 

For Sweden > Svend 03/08/2019 at 23:33

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The “I’m from here” bit is dumb, but I understand leaving out the second part of blank-A merican.  Americans aren’t going to tell each other that they are American.

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:33

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The equivalent in Mexico might be to go see a football match at Estadio Azteca then...

or buying one of these stupid shits;

They sell for 100 dollars on etsy

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat 03/08/2019 at 23:34

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Estadio Aztec a is about as sanitary as the Blarney Stone.

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:35

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can confirm.

wafflesnfalafel > Spanfeller is a twat 03/08/2019 at 23:45

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M y folks are not from where we currently live, neither of their folks were from where they grew up, etc, etc, etc. I am where I am at largely because of several large scale population shifts that occurred within the last 100 years. There will be more and completely different large scale population shifts in the next 100 years. They will always be traumatic. The “new” folks will always be irrationally hated by some of the “original” folks. Star T rek will never happen - sorry to be a downer.  

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:47

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No, but they certainly will say “As an American, I....” when t al king to ot her American about issues that have nothing to do with America. 

Svend > For Sweden 03/08/2019 at 23:48

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Nah. It happens too often to get really annoyed with it.

I remember a black American/African American get butt hurt when he asked my colleague what part of Africa she came from. She told him, she then said she is British now. He told her she was African or African British but not British. She openly laughed at him and told him to shut up. She was a cashier at the time and we told our manager just in case he put a complaint in, the manager said to forget it.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > Svend 03/08/2019 at 23:50

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“they have got confused where Scotland finishes and England begins.”

Many Scots would argue that so have the English :-)  

Svend > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 03/09/2019 at 00:13

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DipodomysDeserti > Svend 03/09/2019 at 00:20

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I had a conversation about this with a Scott on a beach in Hawaii last summer. I explained to him that while I’m American, my great grandfather, who I had a relationship with, was an Albanian speaking Italian, and that I could still visit his childhood home in Calabria, and be excepted as a fellow Arbëreshë by my distant relatives, despite having grown up in the deserts of America.

America is different, for better or for worse, we do our thing here.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Svend 03/09/2019 at 16:11

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It’s kind of ridiculous. The racial dividing in my country is crazy and driven by our government. They passionately want to divide us and force us to claim a side. Just in the last few days I have declined to state an ethnicity repeatedly. The only one that vaguely makes sense for me is “American”, as even with an extensive family tree and genetic testing, I’m too much of a mutt to really claim anything and I am offended by “white”, which is treated as privileged in this country, in spite of rampant racism within this subcategory. Claiming any ethnicity outside “white” gives you considerable privileges here. Claiming “white” gives you no official ones, then if your surname isn’t obviously English or anglicized Germanic in origin, you’re a member of a large, unspoken-of, discriminated-against underclass (not counting family ties in specific regions, which will pull you into an elite), which includes people with Scottish surnames ...

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > For Sweden 03/09/2019 at 16:36

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But claiming most groups is kind of bizarre for a typical American. Often our connection to anywhere else is so tenuous as to be laughable. Sure, my surname is Scottish, but I’m only a tiny fraction Scottish (and probably a lot more than the typical person claiming it). If you’re not a member of a very insular group, you’re probably a serious mutt. I’m far more German than Scottish, yet even that is a small fraction of my ancestry. For example, my closest full ancestors (not actually full based on what we received from them)  were Polish, but even that is only around 20% of my genetic makeup and I’d feel uncomfortable claiming it.